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		<title>By: Ick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 00:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Almost forgot, Dan I added your site to my sidebar. Great work keep it up!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Almost forgot, Dan I added your site to my sidebar. Great work keep it up!<br />
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		<title>By: Ick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 00:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think its time for Favre to ride off into the sunset. I think he polished the tarnish off his legacy with that performance on Sunday night. If you think about it his guts and the way he played the game is what made people fall in love with him.  As I said in the article I found myself worried he wouldn&#039;t get back up after some of the hits he took.  

It was reported today that Favre could barely walk after the game. He had massive bruises on his arms, back, ribs, both legs, and ankle. 

I agree with Dan that a bringing in a veteran would be a wise choice should Favre decide that its over. I wrote an article before the season started about how I felt Michael Vick would be a great fit in Minnesota. I still feel the same way after watching him be McNabb&#039;s back up. I think it made him even more hungry to compete and work for a starting job in the league. Vick will be a starting qb next season, where remains to be seen. I do not condone what he did, but I am glad to see him on the right path, thanks in large part to Tony Dungy.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think its time for Favre to ride off into the sunset. I think he polished the tarnish off his legacy with that performance on Sunday night. If you think about it his guts and the way he played the game is what made people fall in love with him.  As I said in the article I found myself worried he wouldn&#8217;t get back up after some of the hits he took.  </p>
<p>It was reported today that Favre could barely walk after the game. He had massive bruises on his arms, back, ribs, both legs, and ankle. </p>
<p>I agree with Dan that a bringing in a veteran would be a wise choice should Favre decide that its over. I wrote an article before the season started about how I felt Michael Vick would be a great fit in Minnesota. I still feel the same way after watching him be McNabb&#8217;s back up. I think it made him even more hungry to compete and work for a starting job in the league. Vick will be a starting qb next season, where remains to be seen. I do not condone what he did, but I am glad to see him on the right path, thanks in large part to Tony Dungy.<br />
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		<title>By: Chris from Racine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris from Racine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 16:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post sir.  I agree with all you said.  Any Viking fan who doesn&#039;t want him back next year is making a decision based on emotion, not facts and figures.  That being said, the man should retire post haste.  He is just one hit away from being seriously injured...it was painful watching the game (in a fun kind of way) :smiling: 

Not being a Packer fan but living in Wisconsin, I&#039;ve watched this drama go on year after year after year.  In fact, even though Favre left two seasons ago, our newspapers and sportscasters are STILL all Favre, all the time.    I think it&#039;s sad that he has tarnished his legacy the way he has.  Although he&#039;s one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time, he will also forever be known as a manipulative prima donna.

In the words of Motley Crue...Brett don&#039;t go away mad, Brett just go away.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post sir.  I agree with all you said.  Any Viking fan who doesn&#8217;t want him back next year is making a decision based on emotion, not facts and figures.  That being said, the man should retire post haste.  He is just one hit away from being seriously injured&#8230;it was painful watching the game (in a fun kind of way) :smiling: </p>
<p>Not being a Packer fan but living in Wisconsin, I&#8217;ve watched this drama go on year after year after year.  In fact, even though Favre left two seasons ago, our newspapers and sportscasters are STILL all Favre, all the time.    I think it&#8217;s sad that he has tarnished his legacy the way he has.  Although he&#8217;s one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time, he will also forever be known as a manipulative prima donna.</p>
<p>In the words of Motley Crue&#8230;Brett don&#8217;t go away mad, Brett just go away.<br />
.-= Chris from Racine&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://chrisfromracine.blogspot.com/2010/01/mia.html" rel="nofollow">MIA</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 13:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved having Farve here this year, but this year&#039;s performance is no measure for future results.

I hate seeing a 40 year old get knocked to the ground so I&#039;m leaning towards that he should retire.

Plus, the Vikings maybe have another run in them with the right veteran QB and if they can re-establish the ground game.  There defense is pretty young and solid yet and their offensive playmakers like Shiancoe, Harvin, Berrian, Rice still have many years left.  I&#039;d be happy with a McNabb or some other old-side-of-30 QB to hopefully give us another run in the next couple years.
.-= Dan&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://blackandbluedivision.com/?p=58&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Still a tough loss to swallow&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved having Farve here this year, but this year&#8217;s performance is no measure for future results.</p>
<p>I hate seeing a 40 year old get knocked to the ground so I&#8217;m leaning towards that he should retire.</p>
<p>Plus, the Vikings maybe have another run in them with the right veteran QB and if they can re-establish the ground game.  There defense is pretty young and solid yet and their offensive playmakers like Shiancoe, Harvin, Berrian, Rice still have many years left.  I&#8217;d be happy with a McNabb or some other old-side-of-30 QB to hopefully give us another run in the next couple years.<br />
.-= Dan&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://blackandbluedivision.com/?p=58" rel="nofollow">Still a tough loss to swallow</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Ick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think he should retire as well.  I just think its funny that there are some Viking fans out there that don&#039;t want him back. They should realize that the Vikings didn&#039;t decide they wanted him, he decided he wanted them.  He made the decision to go to Minnesota. Was it for the money? Maybe. Was it for a chance at the Superbowl? I&#039;m sure that thought crossed his mind. Was it to stick one to the Packers franchise? Absolutely!  

Farve should walk away now, while he still can. I found myself wondering if he would get up each and everytime he hit the ground last night. The Saints didn&#039;t sack him one time, but man did they put a beating on him. For the first time in his career, Favre looks his age. He looks like a 40 year old man playing a young mans game. 

JaMarcus Russell? Really Liverdamage?  :no:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think he should retire as well.  I just think its funny that there are some Viking fans out there that don&#8217;t want him back. They should realize that the Vikings didn&#8217;t decide they wanted him, he decided he wanted them.  He made the decision to go to Minnesota. Was it for the money? Maybe. Was it for a chance at the Superbowl? I&#8217;m sure that thought crossed his mind. Was it to stick one to the Packers franchise? Absolutely!  </p>
<p>Farve should walk away now, while he still can. I found myself wondering if he would get up each and everytime he hit the ground last night. The Saints didn&#8217;t sack him one time, but man did they put a beating on him. For the first time in his career, Favre looks his age. He looks like a 40 year old man playing a young mans game. </p>
<p>JaMarcus Russell? Really Liverdamage?  :no:</p>
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		<title>By: Lajitas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lajitas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My feelings about the Farve saga are well noted, so I&#039;m not going there tonight. I am going to say that I hope he retires for one plain, simply, ugly truth. He&#039;s 40 years old now. The body is worn and the recuperation period gets longer each game. You could see the stress and agony in his wife&#039;s face after each hit, and with good reason. She is the one who will have to care for him later on down the road. I&#039;ve had many conversations with Art Strahan (Michael&#039;s uncle) about all the players he played with back in the &#039;60&#039;s and early &#039;70&#039;s who can&#039;t walk now, or have trouble just getting from the bed to the wheelchair. Farve has nothing left to prove in this game. No, Cinderella didn&#039;t get the glass slipper back this time. But that&#039;s life. Sometimes it just sucks. But it would be nice for all his fans to be able to watch him walk onto the stage and up to the podium 5 years after retirement to accept his bronze likeness at the Hall of Fame. Retire now and go enjoy life down on the farm. It ain&#039;t so bad, dude, especially when you can afford any toy you want to help occupy your time. Let your wife enjoy you for a while. You&#039;ve had waaaay more years than most get to have. Accept your blessing and go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My feelings about the Farve saga are well noted, so I&#8217;m not going there tonight. I am going to say that I hope he retires for one plain, simply, ugly truth. He&#8217;s 40 years old now. The body is worn and the recuperation period gets longer each game. You could see the stress and agony in his wife&#8217;s face after each hit, and with good reason. She is the one who will have to care for him later on down the road. I&#8217;ve had many conversations with Art Strahan (Michael&#8217;s uncle) about all the players he played with back in the &#8217;60&#8242;s and early &#8217;70&#8242;s who can&#8217;t walk now, or have trouble just getting from the bed to the wheelchair. Farve has nothing left to prove in this game. No, Cinderella didn&#8217;t get the glass slipper back this time. But that&#8217;s life. Sometimes it just sucks. But it would be nice for all his fans to be able to watch him walk onto the stage and up to the podium 5 years after retirement to accept his bronze likeness at the Hall of Fame. Retire now and go enjoy life down on the farm. It ain&#8217;t so bad, dude, especially when you can afford any toy you want to help occupy your time. Let your wife enjoy you for a while. You&#8217;ve had waaaay more years than most get to have. Accept your blessing and go.</p>
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		<title>By: liverdamage</title>
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		<dc:creator>liverdamage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 01:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Favre retires, they&#039;ll need to trade the farm for JaMarcus Russell to even have a chance!</description>
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		<title>By: jimi5150</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 01:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh. Well, if you&#039;re gonna be reasonable about it . . .

I absolutely agree. I&#039;m no Brent fan. Even when he was with the Packers it was a tumultuous relationship for me. A love/hate thing. You live with the Favre, you die with the Favre. He&#039;s an incredible quarterback, no question. The numbers prove it. But, he&#039;s a gunslinger and a maverick. If you&#039;re gonna take him, you&#039;re gonna take ALL of him. As Childress found out.

You make the point about Favre that I&#039;ve been trying to make about his years with the Packers, and Aaron. They&#039;re just one guy . . . and one play does not a football game make. As much as Aaron didn&#039;t lose the game for the Packers, Brent didn&#039;t lose the game for the Vikings. Was it a bad decision? Yep. Did it alter the outcome of the game? Don&#039;t know. We&#039;ll never know. You simply cannot say one way or the other. Even if the ball had been on the 30 yard line . . . look at how many &quot;easy&quot; field goals have been missed this playoff season. The much ballyhoo&#039;d defense of the Vikings had an opportunity to stop the Saints. They didn&#039;t. But, even with that, as much as the Viking defense failed, the offense of the Saints succeeded. There are two teams on the field, folks. And they both want to win.

In the end, I could care less if he retires or not. I&#039;m glad we don&#039;t have to put up with him. But, again, I absolutely agree . . . you&#039;d have to be a complete moron not to want him back next year. They&#039;re not going to get a good draft pick, free agency is going to be iffy this year, their schedule is going to be tougher, and who do you have?

Exactly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh. Well, if you&#8217;re gonna be reasonable about it . . .</p>
<p>I absolutely agree. I&#8217;m no Brent fan. Even when he was with the Packers it was a tumultuous relationship for me. A love/hate thing. You live with the Favre, you die with the Favre. He&#8217;s an incredible quarterback, no question. The numbers prove it. But, he&#8217;s a gunslinger and a maverick. If you&#8217;re gonna take him, you&#8217;re gonna take ALL of him. As Childress found out.</p>
<p>You make the point about Favre that I&#8217;ve been trying to make about his years with the Packers, and Aaron. They&#8217;re just one guy . . . and one play does not a football game make. As much as Aaron didn&#8217;t lose the game for the Packers, Brent didn&#8217;t lose the game for the Vikings. Was it a bad decision? Yep. Did it alter the outcome of the game? Don&#8217;t know. We&#8217;ll never know. You simply cannot say one way or the other. Even if the ball had been on the 30 yard line . . . look at how many &#8220;easy&#8221; field goals have been missed this playoff season. The much ballyhoo&#8217;d defense of the Vikings had an opportunity to stop the Saints. They didn&#8217;t. But, even with that, as much as the Viking defense failed, the offense of the Saints succeeded. There are two teams on the field, folks. And they both want to win.</p>
<p>In the end, I could care less if he retires or not. I&#8217;m glad we don&#8217;t have to put up with him. But, again, I absolutely agree . . . you&#8217;d have to be a complete moron not to want him back next year. They&#8217;re not going to get a good draft pick, free agency is going to be iffy this year, their schedule is going to be tougher, and who do you have?</p>
<p>Exactly.</p>
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